Formula1 Talk

[Beardroid91]

Rigiiiiht ... Verstappen cut the corner without leaving room for the cars he was passing, Verstappen should have had the puncture, but i guess he got karma later in the race.

And right of way of the first corner in the race, yea right no such thing.

But you tell me, but opening lap the teenager should have know better than to cut the corner from the outside line when it is 3 cars side by side.

And Vettel could do nothing, as Bottas as the noob he is he was locking up his front tires, and if Vettel slowed more than he did then Kimi would have hit him, and if he just drove his line then Max would have crashed into him as he had committed to the turn from the outside line which is very ballzy, so he did a Kvyat move - all or nothing move - a fools bravery.

[Lunytrickz]

Max was already past vettel, IMO its vettels fould
and further more vettel should've gotten a penalty for forsing Ocon off track

[MadManCK]

Vettel already called it a racing accident. Max not to blame for it.
He did get the driver of the day reward for an epic overtake race.

RBR obviously did not repair Max' ERS system properly after he stalled the car under similar circumstances on Friday. That is not good. Maybe RBR should have replaced his ERS system to prevent this from happening.
Ricciardo was handed 3th spot on a platter.

And i'm pretty sure Force India now has a battle at hand between their drivers. Ocon was much faster than Perez and had a chance for a podium. To be continued there.

I enjoyed watching the Canadian GP. That was a very good race.

PS Sainz has been penalized with 3 grid positions for next race. His mindless actions caused a very dangerous situation, when he forced Grosjean off track, who could barely recover his HAAS, hitting Sainz when returning, who spun out and torpedoed Massa out of the race.
The Spanish Bowling machine. But that was not a strike to be proud of.

[MadManCK]

Max was leading P1 and P2, but in the last moments of P2, he slammed his RBR sideways into the barriers. A bit sloppy mistake. Still setting the pace in both practice sessions.
Alonso blew another Honda engine. That guy must be so patient. Honda brought 30 extra Horses, but they appear to be Harikiri Horses.

Most drivers overshot at least one or two corners, as braking zones are hard to get right in Baku.

First free practice results - 2017 Azerbaijan Formula 1 Grand Prix

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1. M. Verstappen Red Bull 01:44.410 19
2. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:44.880 22
3. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:44.967 20
4. S. Pérez Force India 01:45.398 16
5. L. Hamilton Mercedes 01:45.497 16
6. V. Bottas Mercedes 01:45.737 19
7. E. Ocon Force India 01:45.752 24
8. F. Massa Williams 01:45.968 25
9. K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:46.000 18
10. D. Kvyat Toro Rosso 01:46.617 11
11. L. Stroll Williams 01:46.649 28
12. K. Magnussen Haas 01:46.721 23
13. R. Grosjean Haas 01:46.837 22
14. N. Hulkenberg Renault 01:47.217 21
15. S. Vandoorne McLaren 01:47.446 22
16. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso 01:47.501 13
17. F. Alonso McLaren 01:47.551 20
18. J. Palmer Renault 01:48.525 15
19. P. Wehrlein Sauber 01:49.048 19
20. M. Ericsson Sauber 01:49.937 21

Second free practice results - 2017 Azerbaijan Formula 1 Grand Prix

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1. M. Verstappen Red Bull 01:43.362 36
2. V. Bottas Mercedes 01:43.462 32
3. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:43.473 34
4. K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:43.489 35
5. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:43.615 35
6. L. Stroll Williams 01:44.113 27
7. S. Pérez Force India 01:44.306 34
8. D. Kvyat Toro Rosso 01:44.321 27
9. E. Ocon Force India 01:44.484 37
10. L. Hamilton Mercedes 01:44.525 23
11. F. Massa Williams 01:44.609 33
12. F. Alonso McLaren 01:45.515 15
13. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso 01:45.733 34
14. K. Magnussen Haas 01:45.831 33
15. N. Hulkenberg Renault 01:46.003 29
16. J. Palmer Renault 01:46.061 17
17. S. Vandoorne McLaren 01:46.174 28
18. P. Wehrlein Sauber 01:47.150 25
19. M. Ericsson Sauber 01:47.347 25
20. R. Grosjean Haas 01:47.722 22

[MadManCK]

P3 showed a lot of cars with issues. Grosjean keeps complaining about the brakes. He does this the whole year. But if you do not have the confidence in the brakes, it can cost you in laptimes. Strange that HAAS can not fix that.

Jolyon Palmer was in the Renault hot seat when his car caught on fire.

Max Verstappen had another total shut down. That is the 3rd time in a row. I don't believe in coincidences. That must have consequences within his mechanical staff.
EDIT; It appears to be a hydrolic issue this time. Reliability is not good at Red Bull Racing this year.

Alonso has now 40 places grid penalty. If they replace more parts on his car, he has to start from the desert nearby

Bottas was fastest, closely followed by Raikkonen. Both Fins seem to like the narrow streets of Baku.
Ocon emerges more and more as a force to be reckoned with.

Sauber Team Boss Monischa Kaltenborn has been sacked. The new owners want a different direction.
She was the one, who contracted two new drivers, while there were still two with valid contracts for that season. Leading to a very expensive flight from Peter Sauber to Australia to buy off Guido van der Garde's contract for a rumored 20M $
Maybe good as a PR or Marketing executive but she never shined as a team Boss.
Speculations about her successor are buzzing in the pit lane. ATS Boss and Former Renault Team Manager Frédéric Vasseur has been mentioned.

One more thing; everybody is now bashing Honda, but the mechanical failure that stopped Alonso's Fridays session was caused by a gearbox problem. And McLaren makes those boxes.....



Third free practice results - 2017 Azerbaijan Formula 1 Grand Prix

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1. V. Bottas Mercedes 01:42.742 21
2. K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:42.837 14
3. L. Hamilton Mercedes 01:43.158 23
4. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:43.287 24
5. E. Ocon Force India 01:43.344 21
6. M. Verstappen Red Bull 01:43.614 16
7. F. Massa Williams 01:43.738 18
8. D. Kvyat Toro Rosso 01:43.908 21
9. L. Stroll Williams 01:44.040 17
10. S. Pérez Force India 01:44.138 22
11. N. Hulkenberg Renault 01:44.312 16
12. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:44.344 7
13. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso 01:44.401 23
14. F. Alonso McLaren 01:44.741 18
15. K. Magnussen Haas 01:44.926 20
16. S. Vandoorne McLaren 01:45.143 17
17. R. Grosjean Haas 01:45.491 20
18. M. Ericsson Sauber 01:45.645 21
19. P. Wehrlein Sauber 01:45.722 19
20. J. Palmer Renault 01:53.040 4

[MadManCK]

Another "stellar" performance from Lewis Hamilton as his race engineer called it. His 66th pole and an excellent position to start tomorrows race in Baku.

Ricciardo slammed his backside into the wall, causing a code red. Just when everybody was improving laptimes. With just 3.33 to go, it were both Ferraris who took 3rd and 4th, moving Max to 5th. Bottas improved his time, but kept 2nd position. Hamilton was half a second faster than anyone else.

Qualifying results - 2017 Azerbaijan Formula 1 Grand Prix

Pos. Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1. L. Hamilton Mercedes 01:41.983 01:41.275 01:40.593 20
2. V. Bottas Mercedes 01:43.026 01:41.502 01:41.027 23
3. K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:42.678 01:42.090 01:41.693 23
4. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:42.952 01:41.911 01:41.841 23
5. M. Verstappen Red Bull 01:42.544 01:41.961 01:41.879 22
6. S. Pérez Force India 01:43.162 01:42.467 01:42.111 21
7. E. Ocon Force India 01:43.051 01:42.751 01:42.186 21
8. L. Stroll Williams 01:43.613 01:42.284 01:42.753 21
9. F. Massa Williams 01:43.165 01:42.735 01:42.798 22
10. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:42.857 01:42.215 01:43.414 20

11. D. Kvyat Toro Rosso 01:42.927 01:43.186 19
12. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso 01:43.489 01:43.347 20
13. K. Magnussen Haas 01:44.029 01:43.796 18
14. N. Hulkenberg Renault 01:43.930 01:44.267 12
15. P. Wehrlein Sauber 01:44.317 01:44.603 18

16. F. Alonso McLaren 01:44.334 9
17. R. Grosjean Haas 01:44.468 10
18. M. Ericsson Sauber 01:44.795 10
19. S. Vandoorne McLaren 01:45.030 8

[Beardroid91]

Messy race this weekend, so many safety cars, i think they used this whole years safety car amounts on this race


Vettel is a mad boss, my Hamilton is a F******* asshole for braking checking him, and slammed into him to wake Hamilton's sorry ass up, maybe abit to hard, but hell Vettel was angry and rightfully so. But damn don't mess with Vettel or you'll get wrecked xD But i fear stewards won't see kindly to it, but who cares this is a tittle match up.

Edit.
Vettel 10 sec stop and go for dangerous driving, and Hamilton got a technical flag for a lose headrest they needed to change, so both championship leaders most likely out of the podium for this race, what a EPIC race

[MadManCK]

Demolition derby in Baku

Bottas T-boned Kimi, both Force India drivers took each other out when in scoring position. Hamilton gave Vettel a brake test, but Vettel should have taken more distance. His reaction should have led to a DQ. But Ferrari seems to have people in high places. 10 sec stop and go for an intentional colission is a joke.
Max had another fail engine (sabotage?). But Alonso scored his first points of the season

Last man standing was Ricciardo, winning the race in his RBR. Bottas had an epic come back from 20th, 1 lap behind even and just passing Lance Stroll on the finish line for second.

Lance Stroll was voted driver of the day and rewarded with his first podium. That wil shut down many critics, including myself

I do not think i have ever seen so many incidents in a single race and also so many clumsy marshals.
Some are not happy with Baku on the F1 calender. They paid 450M $ for 10 years. So they are there to stay for a while.

It was an entertaining race, even if chaotic.

Race results - 2017 Azerbaijan Formula 1 Grand Prix

Pos. Driver Team Time
1. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 2:03:55.570
2. V. Bottas Mercedes +3.904
3. L. Stroll Williams +4.009 +0.105
4. S. Vettel Ferrari +5.976 +1.967
5. L. Hamilton Mercedes +6.188 +0.212
6. E. Ocon Force India +30.298 +24.110
7. K. Magnussen Haas +41.753 +11.455
8. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso +49.400 +7.647
9. F. Alonso McLaren +59.551 +10.151
10. P. Wehrlein Sauber +1:29.093 +29.542
11. M. Ericsson Sauber +1:31.794 +2.701
12. S. Vandoorne McLaren +1:32.160 +0.366
13. R. Grosjean Haas +1 Lap
14. K. Raikkonen Ferrari +5 Laps

Did not finish
15. S. Pérez Force India +12 Laps
16. F. Massa Williams +26 Laps
17. N. Hulkenberg Renault +27 Laps
18. M. Verstappen Red Bull +39 Laps
19. D. Kvyat Toro Rosso +42 Laps
20. J. Palmer Renault +44 Laps

[Beardroid91]

Yeah mega race, but for all the wrong reason

Lets see what the drivers have to say about it, Hamilton can't be happy, but neither can Vettel. But i think Vettel didn't mean to hit Hamilton, i think it just happened, but 10 sec is a pretty light penalty, but maybe a point on the licence maybe ?

But Stroll got very lucky in this race by staying out of trouble and bring it home, but shame Bottas nicked 2nd just on the finish line, but still great result, i also voted for him.

Now i'm just interesting in the drivers interviews.

[Lunytrickz]

vettel should get DQ'd !!!
first of all Hamy was the pacesetter behind the safetycar,
so vettel should've kept more distance !!!
and then that idiot gets so pissed he INTENTIONALY crashes into Hamy
(possibly even passing him, with is not alowed)
and then he falls out of the sky for why he gets a (WAY to light) 10 sec penalty ???

and all those probs with Max's car need some SERIOUS investigation !!!