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So whats with the 10 grid penalty to Sainz? He got damage from the drain and did they use some other parts to repair the car?

Indeed very unfair. Totally out of his control or that from the Ferrari team.
But the FIA does not want to make an exception. And technically it is the "fault" of the FIA as they are end responsible for the safety on and around the track.

Sainz had to change the monocoque, engine, gearbox, suspension, undertray and even his seat was damaged. But the penalty is for the battery.

Some of these rules...

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All I am seeing is a flat boring track and tall chain fences with sponsors on them.

I understand the cameras are focused on the cars but lets see some of that Vegas strip bling and that dumb Sphere.

[MadManCK]

Absolute epic qualifying session, ending with both Ferrari's on the front line. Unfortunately Sainz drops 10 places due to a penalty for changing the battery. Verstappen 3rd but LeClerc was on a high all weekend so far.
It all came down to the final laps as track conditions keep improving during the whole session.



Will the race pace be as good at Saturday Night's race?

Positive note for Williams GP with both cars in the top 10. McLaren dropped the sphere with both cars out in Q1.

1 16 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1:33.617 1:32.775 1:32.726 23
2 55 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 1:33.851 1:33.338 1:32.770 23
3 1 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 1:34.190 1:33.572 1:33.104 19
4 63 George Russell Mercedes 1:34.137 1:33.351 1:33.112 22
5 10 Pierre Gasly Alpine Renault 1:34.272 1:33.494 1:33.239 25
6 23 Alexander Albon Williams Mercedes 1:34.634 1:33.588 1:33.323 21
7 2 Logan Sargeant Williams Mercedes 1:34.525 1:33.733 1:33.513 23
8 77 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo Ferrari 1:34.305 1:33.809 1:33.525 19
9 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 1:34.337 1:33.664 1:33.537 23
10 14 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 1:34.422 1:33.617 1:33.555 24
11 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:34.307 1:33.837 15
12 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 1:34.574 1:33.855 14
13 27 Nico Hulkenberg Haas Ferrari 1:34.265 1:33.979 17
14 18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 1:34.504 1:34.199 18
15 3 Daniel Ricciardo AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 1:34.683 1:34.308 18
16 4 Lando Norris McLaren Mercedes 1:34.703 9
17 31 Esteban Ocon Alpine Renault 1:34.834 10
18 24 Zhou Guanyu Alfa Romeo Ferrari 1:34.849 10
19 81 Oscar Piastri McLaren Mercedes 1:34.850 10
20 22 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 1:36.447 9

[MadManCK]

All I am seeing is a flat boring track and tall chain fences with sponsors on them.

Maybe the track layout itself is not that spectacular, but what a race. Plenty of overtaking actions, some on crazy places. And the most epic straight you can imagine to race on
This was by far the best race this season from a race craft perspective.

Also unpredictable, which adds to the total entertainment of this Vegas bonanza.

Ferrari good in the mix, but in the end it was Max who grabbed the win. LeClerc 2nd with a last lap deep dive on Checo (3rd)
A 3 horse race to the finish. What a race. There were so many overtakes that it is hard to pick the best one.



LeClerc was voted driver of the day after that heroic drive



Very spectacular in a spectacular place.
We did expect a great show in Vegas, but this race was something special.

Max is probably a bit more enthusiastic about the whole event. He sounded a bit like Kimi 2.0 this week. But Las Vegas is there to stay.

Now the organization has to deal with a law suit involving all of the disappointed spectators who were send home after the track damage incident. A voucher for some free Vegas F1 gear will probably don't cut it.

FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN SILVER LAS VEGAS GRAND PRIX 2023

1 1 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 50 1:29:08.289 25
2 16 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 50 +2.070s 18
3 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 50 +2.241s 15
4 31 Esteban Ocon Alpine Renault 50 +18.665s 12
5 18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 50 +20.067s 10
6 55 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 50 +20.834s 8
7 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 50 +21.755s 6
8 63 George Russell Mercedes 50 +23.091s 4
9 14 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 50 +25.964s 2
10 81 Oscar Piastri McLaren Mercedes 50 +29.496s 2
11 10 Pierre Gasly Alpine Renault 50 +34.270s 0
12 23 Alexander Albon Williams Mercedes 50 +43.398s 0
13 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 50 +44.825s 0
14 3 Daniel Ricciardo AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 50 +48.525s 0
15 24 Zhou Guanyu Alfa Romeo Ferrari 50 +50.162s 0
16 2 Logan Sargeant Williams Mercedes 50 +50.882s 0
17 77 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo Ferrari 50 +85.350s 0
18 22 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 46 DNF 0
19 27 Nico Hulkenberg Haas Ferrari 45 DNF 0
NC 4 Lando Norris McLaren Mercedes 2 DNF 0

* Provisional results. Note - Piastri scored an additional point for setting the fastest lap of the race.

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[MadManCK]

The last qualifying was again subject to track limits. If there was a drift king award that would go to Lando Norris but the Pole went to Max Verstappen, lining up for another record breaking win? We will see tomorrow.



Maybe more shocking was both Carlos Sainz and Lewis Hamilton not making it to the final qualifying session


1 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing 1:23.445 5
2 Charles Leclerc Ferrari +0.139 6
3 Oscar Piastri McLaren +0.337 6
4 George Russell Mercedes +0.343 6
5 Lando Norris McLaren +0.371 6
6 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri +0.523 6
7 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin +0.639 6
8 Nico Hulkenberg Haas F1 Team +0.663 6
9 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing +0.726 6
10 Pierre Gasly Alpine +1.103 6
11 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes - - 4
12 Esteban Ocon Alpine - - 4
13 Lance Stroll Aston Martin - - 4
14 Alexander Albon Williams - - 4
15 Daniel Ricciardo AlphaTauri - - 4
16 Carlos Sainz Ferrari - - 2
17 Kevin Magnussen Haas F1 Team - - 2
18 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo - - 2
19 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo - - 2
20 Logan Sargeant Williams

[MadManCK]

Another day at the office for Max Verstappen, claiming his 19th ! win this season.
Charles LeClerc gave him a good battle in the first couple of laps but than he drove away like we have seen more often this season.
Some interesting battles in the midfield, but mostly an uneventful race. Most team members will be exhausted after the ridiculous double header with Las Vegas. Literally the other side of the globe. But everybody will now go on a well deserved Holiday.



McLaren confirmed their found speed with 5th and 6th.

FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX 2023 - RACE RESULT

1 1 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 58 1:27:02.624 26
2 16 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 58 +17.993s 18
3 63 George Russell Mercedes 58 +20.328s 15
4 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 58 +21.453s 12
5 4 Lando Norris McLaren Mercedes 58 +24.284s 10
6 81 Oscar Piastri McLaren Mercedes 58 +31.487s 8
7 14 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 58 +39.512s 6
8 22 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 58 +43.088s 4
9 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 58 +44.424s 2
10 18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 58 +55.632s 1
11 3 Daniel Ricciardo AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 58 +56.229s 0
12 31 Esteban Ocon Alpine Renault 58 +66.373s 0
13 10 Pierre Gasly Alpine Renault 58 +70.360s 0
14 23 Alexander Albon Williams Mercedes 58 +73.184s 0
15 27 Nico Hulkenberg Haas Ferrari 58 +83.696s 0
16 2 Logan Sargeant Williams Mercedes 58 +87.791s 0
17 24 Zhou Guanyu Alfa Romeo Ferrari 58 +89.422s 0
18 55 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 57 DNF 0
19 77 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo Ferrari 57 +1 lap 0
20 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 57 +1 lap 0

* Provisional results. Note - Verstappen scored an additional point for setting the fastest lap of the race.

Yuki Tsunoda thanked Franz Tost with a 8th place in the race and driver of the day



2023 Driver Standings

1 Max Verstappen NED Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 575
2 Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 285
3 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 234
4 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 206
5 Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 206
6 Lando Norris GBR McLaren Mercedes 205
7 Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 200
8 George Russell GBR Mercedes 175
9 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren Mercedes 97
10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 74
11 Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine Renault 62
12 Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine Renault 58
13 Alexander Albon THA Williams Mercedes 27
14 Yuki Tsunoda JPN AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 17
15 Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo Ferrari 10
16 Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas Ferrari 9
17 Daniel Ricciardo AUS AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 6
18 Zhou Guanyu CHN Alfa Romeo Ferrari 6
19 Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas Ferrari 3
20 Liam Lawson NZL AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 2
21 Logan Sargeant USA Williams Mercedes 1
22 Nyck De Vries NED AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 0

2023 Constructor Standings

1 Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 860
2 Mercedes 409
3 Ferrari 406
4 McLaren Mercedes 302
5 Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 280
6 Alpine Renault 120
7 Williams Mercedes 28
8 AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 25
9 Alfa Romeo Ferrari 16
10 Haas Ferrari 12

Mercedes just clinched 2nd over Ferrari

We wish 2024 to be even more close

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[MadManCK]

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