Formula1 Talk

[MadManCK]

Brazil is one of the tracks where a sprintrace really works. This was highly entertaining with lots of action.
The results were maybe more predictable in the end but behind the leaders the battle was on

[MadManCK]

Max had a good start, managed to pull a little gap, while keeping hard charging Lando behind.
But the real battle took place for third between Fernando Alonso and Checo Perez. What a battle with Alonso finishing 0.053 in front on the finish line.

Next race; Las Vegas
Looking forward to that one

FORMULA 1 ROLEX GRANDE PRÊMIO DE SÃO PAULO 2023 - RACE RESULT

1 1 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 71 1:26:07.136 0
2 4 Lando Norris McLaren Mercedes 71 +8.277s 0
3 14 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 71 +34.155s 0
4 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT 71 +34.208s 0
5 18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes 71 +40.845s 0
6 55 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 71 +50.188s 0
7 10 Pierre Gasly Alpine Renault 71 +56.093s 0
8 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 71 +62.859s 0
9 22 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 71 +69.880s 0
10 31 Esteban Ocon Alpine Renault 70 +1 lap 0
11 2 Logan Sargeant Williams Mercedes 70 +1 lap 0
12 27 Nico Hulkenberg Haas Ferrari 70 +1 lap 0
13 3 Daniel Ricciardo AlphaTauri Honda RBPT 70 +1 lap 0
14 81 Oscar Piastri McLaren Mercedes 69 +2 laps 0
NC 63 George Russell Mercedes 57 DNF 0
NC 77 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo Ferrari 39 DNF 0
NC 24 Zhou Guanyu Alfa Romeo Ferrari 22 DNF 0
NC 16 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0 DNF 0
NC 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 0 DNF 0
NC 23 Alexander Albon Williams Mercedes 0 DNF 0

* Provisional results. Note - Norris scored an additional point for setting the fastest lap of the race.

[Lunytrickz]

[MadManCK]

Little appetizer for Vegas upcoming race

[Lunytrickz]

[MadManCK]

We all know Red Bull was involved with the development of The Crew

[MadManCK]

First impression of Vegas is that they have done an incredible job, getting that track ready in a busy Sin City like Las Vegas.
The driving through a tunnel of light is probably a bit like Singapore, with some more fancy surroundings.
I do not think the drivers will get too much distracted.


Ditch that; first session will not be resumed after a track inspection. We had only 9 minutes of this session.
The Red Flag was already weird as there was a slow driving Ferrari that could easily be recovered. But there is obviously something more to be done to the track that can not be easily fixed.

You will not get away with this kind of failure during the first session. Over 1Bn of investments, including 230M land buy by F1 itself, the brand new Pit Building and surrounding for another 250M, 80M for new tarmac on the whole track and than the additional investments by the city itself.



No matter the reason, you will not get away with it from a public opinion perspective.
Every single drain cover should have been inspected in advance, twice. Period.
Maybe next time take a military grade approach to an organization like this. With everything at stake. And do not let things to chance. But than again, this is Vegas... But F1 aint Poker, just sayin'

It appears to be a drain cover not being welded properly. There is a guy in Vegas with a TV show called Welderup. Maybe they should have asked him to wield that solid.



These drain cover incidents have happened before on other city tracks like Baku and Monaco. It is just a nuisance of driving on public roads. It just aint look so good if you fail at the small things when you get the big things right



I do hope the fancy Vegas Hotel arrangements include other exiting entertainment
There are plenty of 150.000$ packages, all the way up to 5.000.000$ for the most ridiculous one. But than you can invite 17 friends to the paddock. Totally worth it.


Welcome to Vegas, baby




EDIT; It appears that Carlos Sainz' Ferrari was damaged so bad that they have to build a complete new car. Not just the under tray, but also the engine and gearbox were severely damaged by the loose cover. Also other cars like the Alfa from Zhou and Ocon's Alpine were damaged. That will generate some steamy discussions for sure.

And that comes on top of drivers, like current World Champion Max Verstappen, who feel like part of a clown show, where the racing is secondary to the show. Well Max, some say Formula One is the biggest Circus on the Planet. And Vegas is the perfect background for that.


But you can not cover everything with some make up, hair dye and boob fillers. That track was not ready for racing. And that is unacceptable. At the same time, you can not judge the work of 1000nds of people by just one incident, but it is at a very unfortunate timing.
Free Practice 2 has been postponed and maybe even cancelled, as i can not see it anymore in the F1 TV programming. Still on 1.5 hour later. Better safe than sorry it seems.
Maybe i should have booked one of those 1.000.000$ Hotel rooms instead....
Or is that money literally going down the drain

The whole manhole came out it appears. How on earth is that even possible.
Everything is now sealed with some resin and they also checked all other similar drains and secured where needed.

PS I do agree this time with Sir Lewis that with all the extra work, overtime and ridiculously overpriced Hotel Rooms and prices, the workforce needs to get extra compensated as well. This appears not to be the case and that is ridiculous. Just a thought.

[MadManCK]

Free practice 2 started at 02:30 and just ended at 04:00 locally, after all the grandstands were emptied out and most spectators went home to their Hotels or Black Jack tables.

But the track crew did a great job recovering, fixing all the track damage and possible other dangerous sites.

Also kudos to the Ferrari mechanics for fixing the Sainz car in a record time (playing Lionel Richies "all night long" ) as well as the Alpine crew for the Ocon repairs.


Very spectacular track with high speed overtaking and many braking errors. As the track rubbered in, laptimes dropped quickly. LeClerc seems to dig these street tracks and set the pace today.

This was a long wait but well worth it.

[dpuff]

So whats with the 10 grid penalty to Sainz? He got damage from the drain and did they use some other parts to repair the car?

[MadManCK]

So whats with the 10 grid penalty to Sainz? He got damage from the drain and did they use some other parts to repair the car?

Indeed very unfair. Totally out of his control or that from the Ferrari team.
But the FIA does not want to make an exception. And technically it is the "fault" of the FIA as they are end responsible for the safety on and around the track.

Sainz had to change the monocoque, engine, gearbox, suspension, undertray and even his seat was damaged. But the penalty is for the battery.

Some of these rules...