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Ariel Motor Company wrote:Downforce when stationary – The Vacuum Cleaner



The aims of AERO-P were to minimise aerodynamic drag with innovative aero concepts, in order to reduce comparative CO2 emissions, while at the same time improving vehicle stability and safety. Using both passive and active aerodynamic solutions the project also looks at cooling and airflow management requirements on electric and hybrid vehicles, as well as conventional ICE cars, in order to maximise vehicle efficiency and performance. Although much of the project is still in development and remains confidential, an interesting demonstrable output already is the Atom test car giving downforce at any speed, including standstill.



Said Simon Saunders, Director of Ariel, “Although it’s a large and complex project, covering a lot of areas, performance is core to us. We’re moving towards the point where traction and therefore acceleration, particularly from standstill, are limited by mechanical grip so were trying to come up with ways of overcoming this. One of our targets was to minimise or remove the need for aerofoils and have ‘downforce when stationary’. Inspiration came from banned racing cars of the past, so there’s a big nod from us to Jim Hall’s 1970 Chaparral 2J Sucker Car and the Gordon Murray Brabham BT46B Fan Car of 1978. The Atom test car has been already been nicknamed The Vacuum Cleaner and hopefully it follows in the tradition of these two great cars.”



Conventional aerofoils and aerodynamic devices give downforce at speed – the higher the speed, the higher the downforce. However the negative aspect of this is that downforce is not required for most of the time, particularly for road based cars during normal driving, and is not available at slow speed or when stationary. The ensuing drag of fixed aerofoils also not only reduces a vehicle’s top speed but has a marked negative effect on its fuel consumption as well as emissions. On the Atom drag can be increased by as much as 15% by adding conventional aerofoils with the resultant effect on fuel use and tailpipe emissions.



On the AERO-P Atom there are no aerofoils so drag is not increased, adding to the efficiency of the car as well as top speed. The downforce generated by the system not only improves cornering ability but also braking for track use and in emergencies, increasing performance while improving stability and safety.





Powered by two small, lightweight, high speed fans the Atom test car has an additional moulding and rubber skirts added to the bottom of the tub as well as ducting and a standalone battery pack. The ability to spin up the fans very quickly allows the system to be turned on and off when required, whether under acceleration, cornering or braking, either manually or automatically. Fans are therefore only running when there is a need and for brief amounts of time, for instance from start, when cornering or under braking. When not required at cruise and high speed conditions the system remains in stand-by, improving vehicle range and reducing CO2 emissions.



The Atom AERO-P demonstrator is just an initial mule test bed and doesn’t represent the production possibilities of the system which will be the result of further testing and development. The scope of the project also takes in wider passive aerodynamic design and the particular requirements of new technology power trains, not yet released and still under development.



“When the system is turned on the car visibly squats on the ground so you can see it working, which is pretty exciting,” said Simon Saunders, “We’re already making about three times the downforce as aerofoils, but this really is just the first step and a very early stage in what is a large and complex project to bring to a production reality, so we have a lot more work to do.”



The aerodynamic development was carried out utilising CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) by TotalSim, based in Brackley. From their original roots in Formula 1 TotalSim are now world leaders in aerodynamics and fluid flow problem solving working on all types of motorsport and volume production vehicles. Said Rob Lewis, Director of TotalSim, “CFD allows us to rapidly and cost effectively test different aerodynamic configurations, reducing the need for physical testing. The ability to create significant downforce at zero speed is very exciting.”



Simulated performance times and bench testing of AERO-P prototypes at full size were carried out by Delta Motorsport, based at Silverstone. With a background in technology transfer from motorsport, Delta’s multi discipline skills have seen them rise to the forefront of UK engineering consultancy and advanced technology projects. Nick Carpenter, Engineering Director of Delta Motorsport said, “We love working with creative, lateral-thinking businesses such as Ariel and TotalSim, coming up with – and then implementing – novel solutions to tricky problems. As with many of the projects we’re working on today, we see the trickle down from high-performance vehicles to conventional passenger cars over time, so it’s great to be ahead of the curve with these new technologies.”



The project was supported by Innovate UK via the Niche Vehicle Network and their annual R&D Competition. The AERO-P Atom will be on the Niche Vehicle Network stand on 14 & 15 September at Millbrook Proving Ground, Bedfordshire.
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They should have named it "Ariel 2J".
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TheLuigi907 wrote:They should have named it "Ariel 2J".
Why exactly?
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ENZO wrote:
TheLuigi907 wrote:They should have named it "Ariel 2J".
Why exactly?
He is just makin' a reference to the Chaparral 2J, another vacuum cleaner car. :geek:

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Which was already mentioned in the press release I shared in the OP...
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If this really becomes a thing I don't think it's gonna be road legal. It looks like it can't even get over a speed bump or even large natural undulation in a road. :lol:
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Warachia wrote:If this really becomes a thing I don't think it's gonna be road legal. It looks like it can't even get over a speed bump or even large natural undulation in a road. :lol:
why not?
the original McLaren F1 roadcar already had fans that sucked air out from unter the car
and it had plenty of roadclearance

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that's why it didn't needed massive wings etc to get to its massive topspeed
for racing that active aero wasn't alowed
that's why the LM winning Maca's had those big wings & splitters, and l8r the Longtail
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Lunytrickz wrote:
Warachia wrote:If this really becomes a thing I don't think it's gonna be road legal. It looks like it can't even get over a speed bump or even large natural undulation in a road. :lol:
why not? [...] McLaren F1 roadcar already had fans that sucked air out from unter the car and it had plenty of roadclearance
Something that this Ariel does not have. The car in the OP's pics sits so low, there practically isn't any ground clearance at all.

Now that I look at the pictures in OP, the board nailed to the bottom of the car kinda reminds me of an ironing board. :lol:
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It does indeed refer too much to house keeping tools. :lol:

Big risk with the Ariel system, is that the moment you whobble over bumps, the air control under the car can get disturbed quickly, with dangerous side effects. The system in the McLaren F1 was more clever. But that was done by Gordon Murray. And it is a little bit more expensive.

Even if it is cool that they commit themselves to create an exotic machine like this, that development money could have been better spent. :twocents-02cents:
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